The Blog has taken the path of education, so I would like to address some of the comments, questions etc.
I will say that it has been a very positive conversation thus far and the emotion has died down and taken a back seat. That is wonderful as sometimes we get so caught up in things, that we lose track of what we were talking about in the first place..
We have
partly discussed the education process in the
Schmiedeleut and the
Lehrerleut branches of Hutterites.. But we have not heard yet from any
Dariusleut Hutterites.
(I don't believe we have anyway) If you are a
Dariusleut Hutterite and you are reading this please feel free to add your education process.
Dorty Wrote: This is quite interesting, there appear to be certain branches that embrace education and even drivers licenses for the women, while the Lehrerleut do neither which in my opinion is unfortunate.
I do agree with you Dorty, I really do and I could not have said it any better..
I was very surprised to hear that the Schmiedeleut are as advanced as they are with their educations and everything...It is absolutely wonderful as it is a shame to see the stream of a humans potential never fully realized..The Schmiedeleut are tapping into that stream, and they are doing that very well...
The technology gizmo's and the education process may vary between the Schmiedeleut and the Lehrerleut but the "Internal Religious Beliefs" are pretty much the same. Here is an interesting tidbit though..the Lehrerleut do not necessarily agree with the advances of the Schmideleut and that is NOT my opinion.. "that is what I hear among the chatter of the Lehrerleut".. Do I agree with this... NO I DO NOT.. My hat is off to anyone who chooses higher education..
Dorty: Education is liberation,there is no doubt about that. Is it possible the reason that higher education is not pursued or encouraged by the colony leaders, is to keep the young people from leaving like yourself, Jerry?
I will be very honest with you here Dorty. I have said those same exact words many many times, because with an education beyond the teachings of the culture, people change, and the light they see is brighter, .. it takes them down a whole different path.
The real question is: "Are the Lehrereleut really trying to keep people from learning so that they stay in the comfort zone or do they simply not know any better based on their OWN education?..
I do not believe that limited education is to keep the members in the colony..because you have to remember that the elders in the colony have the same level of education as the young people do. So they basically do not know what is out there.. The Schmiedeleut comment below kinda shoots that theory.. This is an interesting debate though.
Dorty: Think about it, yourself as an example, do you think you would have stayed in the Hutterite colony had you received education beyond eight grade?
I cannot honestly answer that question at this point as I have always been one to think differently. Not quite sure why, but I am one who formed his own opinions even while I was still in the colony. I always joke with my mom .. "You grabbed the wrong baby. Her reply: "That is impossible son, you were born at home". SIDENOTE: 99.9% of all Lehrerleut Hutterite babies are NOT born at home in these times..
My point is that for some reason at the age of 18 I decided to leave the colony. This was an abrupt decision..a spur of the moment choice, I made.. I was one of those who "would never leave in a million years".. I was a mommas boy and I remember one day when I was 17.. My moms sister was visiting and she told my mother.. "He will never leave the colony".. my mom smiled "I know" she said.. Maybe it was at that moment that I made a decision to be "who I wanted to be and not what my aunt thought I should be".. I left shortly after that and the day my aunt said that, was the first day ever..that I thought there might be a chance that I COULD leave..I am mentioning this because I never forgot that remark by my aunt. Just like everyone else, I have a million childhood memories but that one for some strange reason is the one I think most about...
In my opinion education is obtaining knowledge. It opens doors that otherwise would remain closed. Education challenges one to think, rationalize, deduct and problem solve with a vast knowledge base. Please don't misunderstand me, one doesn't have to have an education to use ones brain, but the potential is infinite when we have direction and purpose. So many of the scientists who have gone on before us were German. I see the Hutterites, like I said yesterday, with so much potential but not the drive to pursue higher callings simply because education is not a high priority.
Hmm.. Are you sure we are not related.. (smiles) I'm sure many of the colonies do well with an eight grade education running their industries, some seem to thrive especially in the agriculture sector. It appears they are not afraid to employ the latest in farming equipment and technology. I can't help but wonder though, if they would be as successful in their operations if they encouraged their children to seek higher education or would they just dwindle away?
I will say that it has been a very positive conversation thus far and the emotion has died down and taken a back seat. That is wonderful as sometimes we get so caught up in things, that we lose track of what we were talking about in the first place..
We have partly discussed the education process in the Schmiedeleut and the Lehrerleut branches of Hutterites.. But we have not heard yet from any Dariusleut Hutterites. (I don't believe we have anyway) If you are a Dariusleut Hutterite and you are reading this please feel free to add your education process.
Dorty Wrote: This is quite interesting, there appear to be certain branches that embrace education and even drivers licenses for the women, while the Lehrerleut do neither which in my opinion is unfortunate.
I do agree with you Dorty, I really do and I could not have said it any better..
I was very surprised to hear that the Schmiedeleut are as advanced as they are with their educations and everything...It is absolutely wonderful as it is a shame to see the stream of a humans potential never fully realized..The Schmiedeleut are tapping into that stream, and they are doing that very well...
The technology gizmo's and the education process may vary between the Schmiedeleut and the Lehrerleut but the "Internal Religious Beliefs" are pretty much the same. Here is an interesting tidbit though..the Lehrerleut do not necessarily agree with the advances of the Schmideleut and that is NOT my opinion.. "that is what I hear among the chatter of the Lehrerleut".. Do I agree with this... NO I DO NOT.. My hat is off to anyone who chooses higher education..
Dorty: Education is liberation,there is no doubt about that. Is it possible the reason that higher education is not pursued or encouraged by the colony leaders, is to keep the young people from leaving like yourself, Jerry?
I will be very honest with you here Dorty. I have said those same exact words many many times, because with an education beyond the teachings of the culture, people change, and the light they see is brighter, .. it takes them down a whole different path.
The real question is: "Are the Lehrereleut really trying to keep people from learning so that they stay in the comfort zone or do they simply not know any better based on their OWN education?..
I do not believe that limited education is to keep the members in the colony..because you have to remember that the elders in the colony have the same level of education as the young people do. So they basically do not know what is out there.. The Schmiedeleut comment below kinda shoots that theory.. This is an interesting debate though.
Dorty: Think about it, yourself as an example, do you think you would have stayed in the Hutterite colony had you received education beyond eight grade?
I cannot honestly answer that question at this point as I have always been one to think differently. Not quite sure why, but I am one who formed his own opinions even while I was still in the colony. I always joke with my mom .. "You grabbed the wrong baby. Her reply: "That is impossible son, you were born at home". SIDENOTE: 99.9% of all Lehrerleut Hutterite babies are NOT born at home in these times..
My point is that for some reason at the age of 18 I decided to leave the colony. This was an abrupt decision..a spur of the moment choice, I made.. I was one of those who "would never leave in a million years".. I was a mommas boy and I remember one day when I was 17.. My moms sister was visiting and she told my mother.. "He will never leave the colony".. my mom smiled "I know" she said.. Maybe it was at that moment that I made a decision to be "who I wanted to be and not what my aunt thought I should be".. I left shortly after that and the day my aunt said that, was the first day ever..that I thought there might be a chance that I COULD leave..I am mentioning this because I never forgot that remark by my aunt. Just like everyone else, I have a million childhood memories but that one for some strange reason is the one I think most about...
In my opinion education is obtaining knowledge. It opens doors that otherwise would remain closed. Education challenges one to think, rationalize, deduct and problem solve with a vast knowledge base. Please don't misunderstand me, one doesn't have to have an education to use ones brain, but the potential is infinite when we have direction and purpose. So many of the scientists who have gone on before us were German. I see the Hutterites, like I said yesterday, with so much potential but not the drive to pursue higher callings simply because education is not a high priority.
Hmm.. Are you sure we are not related.. (smiles)I'm sure many of the colonies do well with an eight grade education running their industries, some seem to thrive especially in the agriculture sector. It appears they are not afraid to employ the latest in farming equipment and technology. I can't help but wonder though, if they would be as successful in their operations if they encouraged their children to seek higher education or would they just dwindle away?